Preci ? BM ? Survie ? On fait quoi a legion

Bon honnêtement je suis perdue avec le hunt a légion.
JE ne sais pas quoi prendre si vous avez des idées ? je suis preneuse

Car la j avoue que je rame !

Bisou tout doux !!

Prends une rame, ça ira mieux tu verras

Si tu veux des informations concernant le chasseur, un des plus actifs de la communauté se nomme Azortharion, voici son twitter.

https://twitter.com/azortharionz?lang=fr

Tu y trouveras sous peu un guide pour le chasseur qu'il a rédigé sur Icy veins.

Une partie de ses travaux pour SimCraft/WA se trouvent ici :

http://pastebin.com/u/Azortharion

Merci pour les liens !! je vais voir ça dans la journée !

Sinon j avoue que le maitrise de bete DPS bien plus que precision ( en phase de pex sur la beta).

Go BM !! préci c'est nul

de ce que je lis sur les fofo depuis qq temps, la BM revient en force!!!! et apparement ça défonce bcp de classe (bien joué bien sur)

donc si tu aime la spé bete = fonce!

si tu aime pas : joue une spé qui te plait et défonce les autres.

Moi j adore les NANIMOS  !!!!!  alors oui spe bête pour moi !!! et attention, le premier qui me cherche des noises je le donne a manger a Pupuce et Couette mes petits LOUPS affamés !

PS: ne regardez pas le petit pantalon rouge de Couette !! ça le met en colère !! il a peur qu on tente de le lui voler !
Pupuce :



Couette:



Mmiiaaoouuu    

du reste, étant ex-bm, j'ai des collection de nanimos donc je suis fier!!! (j'avais tous les chiens à 2 tetes d'origine (j'ai été chercher La Bete dans le raid/dj (sais plus maintenant xD)
des autres que j'adore (chromaggus et chimaeron)
meme une arraignée... sisi (deathillac.. la plus "belle")
et un machin rose genre trotteur haut sur patte
beaucoup de spirit trouver partout... ahhhh ça me manque la chasse au bete.. ou de mettre ma fille devant l'écrant des heures en attendant qu'elle entende NPC scan pour m'appeler xDD

Ces pets sont tous nuls comparés à mes futurs compagnons, je vous laisse apprécier leur magnificence:
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=103326/mana-saber#same-model-as

comment ça mon pet est buggé ?
https://i.servimg.com/u/f35/19/51/93/70/wowscr10.jpg

Jurassic parc ! *o*

j'adooooooooooore

Bon BM ou precis... voila que je commence a aimer la spe precis maintenant !!! vu le 4P T19 le BM semble meilleur... mais difficile a dire sans etre 110 . je pense qu il faudra les 2 spe.

Donc pex en BM puis voir une fois 110.
L avantage etant qu en BM et MM c est Maitrise/hate les stats donc même stuff !

Je te conseillerais que trop de jouer BM !
Le gameplay est fun, tant en donjon qu'en raid, et entre nous, ça casse des culs.


Bien amicalement,

^^ je prends note !! et j avoue qu avoir 2 louloups je suis fan !!

+1, bm explose les autre spe une fois 110.
le plus opti c est précis ->105, puis bm ^^

Selon azortharion la spé MM serait plus opti en raid que la spé BM, du coup que faire ?
#panique

j'ai vu aussi que les 2 spés était compétitive.

franchement.. jouer la spé qui vous plait le plus entre les 2!!!!

un joueur qui prend du plaisir sera plus opti qu'un qui se force à jouer tel ou tel spé parce-que-c'est-method-qui-a-dis (c'est un exemple hein^^)

perso si j'avais main chassou je resterai BM.. c'est la spé qui me plait le plus

Oui Darklop Azortharion prône la spé MM, les logs aussi apparemment, après la spé BM est plus op Donjon/pex, je la trouve plus simple à jouer personnellement, donc meilleur vision des fights, après elles sont très proche en chiffre.

Aaaahhhhhh !!!! Et vous m'annoncez ça a 4 jours de legion !!!!! Panique !!!!!! Bon bah je sais plus T_T

Team BM up!!!

Un post que je viens de lire sur MmoChamp

About Mythic+ Dungeons

So, I've mentioned to others a few times, including just before I was banned from Discord, I don't see any reason why people are recommending going 13 traits in BM and using BM exclusively in Mythic+ Dungeons. From sims, I just wasn't seeing this advantage. However, I was told that BM is best at Mythic+. Not going 13 traits into BM and using it would be "retarded." Other times, it's been just said that MM would be slower and would impede the 5 man team, making it harder to clear within the time limits set in Mythic 2+ Level. Go with what you feel if you want to be dumb. That kind of thing.

Well, I've watched a lot of Mythic+ farming videos, and I've itemized some of the things you have to keep in mind in other posts. What complicates looking at Mythic+ Dungeon performance is that you really should not look at AoE with 2-6 persistent adds in Simcraft. That's the easiest thing to setup in Simcraft, but it's also a poor approximation of how you'll be pulling adds, and this is a seriously big deal when trying to evaluate how MM does in Mythic+ dungeons and comparing it to BM.

In Mythic+, you're usually going to just pull 3-6 mobs, especially once you get your first affixes at Mythic Level 4, but these pulls are characterized by something that benefits MM greatly and punishes BM's reliance on Beast Cleave. Each pack has mobs of different health levels, and lesser health adds die off relatively quickly. A larger HP add is usually there throughout the pack, and you clean it up last. In other words, the pack death is staggered. Why is this important? Bullseye. Before I explain what I'm seeing in sims, let me just post the results, and you guys can hopefully offer some feedback if you see things differently.

These include investing in BM from 13-16 as an offspec and SV from 11-16 as an offspec. These are using current Simcraft, which has this slight bump to SV damage that I still haven't had time to verify in AMR yet.

Single Target Mythic Dungeon Boss Pulls (3m +/- 20%, 50k iterations


Two Target Staggered Mobs in Mythic Dungeons (2m, fixed time, 50k iterations)


Three Target Staggered Mobs in Mythic Dungeons (1m, fixed time, 50k iterations)


Six Target Staggered Mobs in Mythic Dungeons (1m, fixed time, 50k iterations)


So, the first thing I'm going to say is that SV's performance is strong in Mythic+ Dungeon. You can literally be competitive with your teammates in Mythic+ as SV with as little as 11 artifact points, though if you're going to do that, I would recommend 12 to reduce your trap cooldowns (a significant dps increase). And if you are a hardcore believer in this parroted notion that 13 artifact points isn't a big deal, then running as SV seems like a much better decision than BM (assuming that the sims are not completely inflated above game, which we still need to check into).

The second thing worth saying is that BM's beast cleave looks great in persistent add AoEs, but that's not what you're going to see in Mythic Dungeon mob pulls. Each mob pack has low health adds and high health adds. The death of these adds will be staggered, and a six mob pack will turn into a 3 mob pack pretty quickly. Even more interestingly, a staggered pack puts one or more mobs under 20% health really, really quickly. Why is this important? Again, it's MM's bullseye.

The mechanics of Bullseye in not just boss fights but also in add packs is why I have changed my recommended MM artifact path to go for bullseye first rather than legacy. You're going to want some practice with reacting to low mob health and using that to great effect. Saving your last barrage before 20% can help you build 13+ stacks of Bullseye quickly, and then you have 13% more critical strike for MM AoE (Marked Shot, Sidewinders, Barrage, etc.) An easy, additional optimization for MM during trash pulls would be to ask the other dpsers in your group to change their primary targets away from mobs under 20% health, so you maintain Bullseye through ancillary damage on the low health mob for longer.

So, my recommendation for Mythic+ Dungeons is going to be the same as raids. MM is my recommendation for Mythic+ Dungeons. You're already investing in it for 20+ traits when Emerald Nightmare drops, and MM again has a toolset that is just perfect for not only the single target requirements of Tyrannical affixes in Level 10 Mythic Dungeons, but it also appears to have the right toolset to deal with staggered adds in 3+ AoE mob packs. It also keeps you out of the harm that happens in melee ranges (e.g., the affix in Mythic Level 4+ that drops AoE pools under adds when they die), which you will have to deal with as SV. If you go MM, make sure you understand Barrage's range and how to position yourself when dpsing. You should either be ~45y away from the pack when using Barrage or move to the other side of the pack and face the way you came so the bullets that bend time and space and go through walls do not end up pulling other packs. Another option is to ask your tank to move mob packs away from the next packs, along the path you came from.

Does this mean that I'm saying anyone who doesn't go MM for Mythic+ dungeons is "retarded" or "hurting their group"? No. This is probably the closest tuning has ever been for our three specs that I can remember at the launch of an expansion. Usually we don't have this much choice. Going full MM, imo, is the most logical thing to do right now, but going 12 or 13 into an offspec seems fine. I'm just not seeing the evidence, outside of persistent large AoE packs that you won't really see in Mythic+ dungeons, that BM is even an offspec you should use in Mythic+ Dungeons. I mean, sure it can work. But even before this buff to SV we see in Simcraft after the patch application, SV was a strong candidate here as well.

As usual, this is my first look into Mythic+ dungeons. We have 3 weeks to get new information, tuning changes may alter these sims and my intuitions. This is not the final word. My word is just guidance posted in good faith using as close an approximation in sims as I can do right now after watching a little over a dozen videos of people farming Mythic+ dungeons. With the time limits available, the key thing is really just not wiping to trash or bosses. Be safe, do not allow much or any downtime between pulls, and you'll be fine (as long as you're playing the specs close to optimally).

Source : Effinhunter   MmoChamp


Je m'excuse pour les non anglophones,  c'est assez indigeste lol